Janelle wanted me to post about our discussion with the pyromaniacs, and I will (kind of.) And then I have a question for the fam, since obviously we're the only ones to read my blog :-).
Basically there was some dude who said that God told him to write a book, and he did, with the help of the Holy Spirit of course. He wrote an article in a magazine about it, but wrote the article anonymously (sp?.) So we still don't know who this person is, or if he really even wrote a book.
The Pyro's freaked out, of course. The post that I read was from Dan Phillips, who basically said the guy was a spineless coward who went around listening to "voices in his head." This led to some discussion among many world famous bloggers like me, Joey, Janelle and Jesse.
I'm not quite sure what Joey said, since I don't really understand him, he's way too smart. Janelle was defending some girl named April, talking about the possibility of living by prayer and being sensitive to the word of the Holy Spirit. I'm pretty sure this led to her being called an adolescent girl :-). I was saying random things about Dan Phillips belief that God only speaks when he intends for it to be put in the Bible.
And then Jesse tore them up and down, left and right it and led to the most defensive post I've ever seen from the Pyro's, who I read often.
This is my question for everyone in the fam: it seemed like at some point or another, me, Joey, Jesse and Janelle all made it clear that we were not defending the author of the original article. It showed a lack of courage and only added to the stereotype of charismatics. After the worship conference, the biggest problem (as far as I know Joey agrees with me here) that me and Joey had (although it was an awesome conference) was the Sovereign Grace seems to be being super careful with how the reformed world thinks of our usage of the gifts. For example, we no longer say that we have a "significant charismatic dimension." We say we are "committed to the the gifts as biblically defined." The quesion:
Are me and Joey right that as a movement Sovereign Grace is being "careful", for lack of a better word, with the gifts so as not to offend our Reformed friends (or any other reason), if we are, should we be being careful? And if we should, why should we?
p.s. If anyone happens to read this for some strange reason, feel free to post I'm just kind of assuming that my family will be the only ones to read it.
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I need more time to consider the implications of whether or not we should be concerned. However, I would say that there is nothing wrong with having a concern for the interests of others, as long as that concern does not result in one's own sinfulness.
What I find most intriguing about this post, however, is contemplating who the pyromaniacs are...
if you go to google and type in pyromaniacs and go to the first link you can get to their blog. Basically they are a bunch of reformed bloggers who blog together and they're really cool about most things but they are definitely cessasionists they're pretty much John Macarthurs boys...so their blogs that have to do with the gifts are always hilarious.
this is what jaime wanted to say (but she doesn't have a blogger password)
My only thing is that the pyros (and others with those views such as our "reformed friends") do not seem to mind being very outspoken with their views. Are they not afraid of offending us? Do we need to be careful about what we believe to be truth? I think not, but I am not as studied about these theological issues as you guys.
Yes, they called me an adolescent girl. I think it was intended to make me feel bad...but that means that they actually went on my blog which is humorous to me.
I think Jaime should get a name and password so she can post for herself. Is she lazy?
I also agree that we should not be afraid to be outspoken about what we believe, thus my new blog "Prophetically Speaking"
So Hey, I just read that whole exchange. I'm really sorry that happened. I have very little respect for those guys. Very little at all.
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